DebConf 25 happened between 14th July and 19th July and I was there. It was my first DebConf (the big one, I was at a Mini DebConf in Hamburg a couple of years ago) and it was interesting. DebConf 25 happened at a Campus University at the outskirts of Brest and I was rather reluctant to go at first (EuroPython 25 was happening at the same time in Prague), but I decided to use the chance of DebConf happening in Europe, reachable by train from Vienna. We took the nighttrain to Paris, then found our way through the maze that is the Paris underground system and then got to Brest with the TGV. On our way to the Conference site we made a detour to a supermarket, which wasn’t that easy because is was a national holiday in France and most of the shops were closed. But we weren’t sure about the food situation at DebConf and we also wanted to get some beer.

At the conference we were greeted by very friendly people at the badge station and the front desk and got our badges, swag and most important the keys to pretty nice rooms on the campus. Our rooms had a small private bathroom with a toilet and a shower and between the two rooms was a shared kitchen with a refrigerator and a microwave. All in all, the accommodation was simple but provided everything we needed and especially a space to have some privacy.

During the next days I watched a lot of talks, met new people, caught up with old friends and also had a nice time with my travel buddies. There was a beach near the campus which I used nearly every day. It was mostly sunny except for the last day of the conference, which apparently was not common for the Brest area, so we got lucky regarding the weather.

Given that we only arrived in the evening of the first day of DebConf, I missed the talk When Free Software Communities Unite: Tails, Tor, and the Fight for Privacy (recording), but I watched it on the way home and it was also covered by LWN.

On Tuesday I started the day by visiting a talk about tag2upload (recording). The same day there was also an academic track and I watched the talk titled Integrating Knowledge Graphs into the Debian Ecosystem (recording) which presented a property graph showing relationships between various entities like packages, maintainers or bugs (there is a repository with parts of a paper, but not much other information). The speaker also mentioned the graphcast framework and the ontocast framework which sound interesting - we might have use for something liked this at $dayjob.

In the afternoon there was a talk about the ArchWiki (recording) which gave a comprehensive insight in how the ArchWiki and the community behind it works. Right after that was a Debian Wiki BoF. There are various technical limitations with the current wiki software and there are not enough helping hands to maintain the service and do content curation. But the BoF had some nice results: there is now a new debian-wiki mailinglist, an IRC channel, a MediaWiki installation has been set up during DebConf, there are efforts to migrate the data and most importantly: and handful of people who want to maintain the service and organize the content of the wiki. I think the input from the ArchWiki folks gave some ideas how that team could operate.

Wednesday was the day of the daytrip. I did not sign up for any of the trips and used the time to try out tag2upload, uploaded the latest labwc release to experimental and spent the rest of the day at the beach.

Other noteworthy session I’ve attended were the Don’t fear the TPM talk (recording), which showed me a lot of stuff to try out, the session about lintian-ng (no recording), which is an experimental approach to make lintian faster, the review of the first year of wcurls existence (no recording yet) and the summary of Rust packaging in Debian (no recording yet). In between the sessions I started working on packaging wlr-sunclock (#1109230).

What did not work

Vegan food.

I might be spoiled by other conferences. Both at EuroPycon last year (definitely bigger, a lot more commercial) and at PyCon CZ 23 (similar in size, a lot more DIY) there was catering with explicitly vegan options.

As I’ve mentioned in the beginning, we went to a supermarket before we went to the conference and we had to go there one more time during the conference. I think there was a mixture between a total lack of awareness and a LOT of miscommunication. The breakfasts at the conference consisted of pastries and baguettes - I asked at the first day what the vegan options were and the answer was “I don’t know, maybe the baguette?” and we were asked to only take as much baguette as the people who also got pastries.

The lunch was prepared by the “Restaurant associatif de Kernévent” which is a canteen at the university campus. When we asked if there is vegan food, the people there said that there was only a vegetarian option so we only ate salad. Only later we heard via word of mouth that one has to explicitly ask for a vegan meal which was apparently prepared separatly and you had to find the right person that knows about it (I think thats very Debian-like 😉). But even then a person once got a vegetarian option offered as vegan food.

One problem was also the missing / confusing labeling of the food. At the conference dinner there was apparently vegan food, but it was mixed with all the other food. There were some labels but with hundreds of hungry people around and caterers removing empty plates and dropping off plates with other stuff, everything gets mixed up. In the end we ate bread soaked in olive oil, until the olive oil got taken away by the catering people literally while we were dipping the bread in it.

And when these issues were raised, some of the reactions can be summarized as “You’re holding it wrong” which was really frustrating.

The dinners at the conference hall were similar. At some point I had the impression that “vegan” and “vegetarian” was simply seen as the same thing.

If the menus would be written like a debian/copyright file it would probably have looked like this:

Food: *
Diet: Vegan or Vegetarian

But the thing is that Vegan and Vegetarian cannot be mixed. Its similar to non compatible licenses. Once you mix vegan food with vegan food with vegetarian food it’s not vegan anymore.

Don’t get me wrong, I know its hard to organize food for hundreds of people. But if you don’t know what it means to provide a vegan option, just communicate the fact so people can look alternatives in advance. During the week some of the vegan people shared food, which was really nice and there were also a lot of non-vegan people who tried to help, organized extra food or simply listened to the hangry rants. Thanks for that!

Paris

Saturday was the last day of DebConf and it was a rainy day. On Sunday morning we took the TGV back to Paris and then stayed there for one night because the next night train back to Vienna was on Monday. Luckily the weather was better in Paris. The first thing we did was to look up a vegan burger place. In the evening we strolled along the Seine and had a couple of beers at the Jardins du Trocadéro. Monday the rain also arrived in Paris and we mostly went from one cafe to the next, but also managed to visit Notre Dame.

Conclusio

The next DebConf will be in Argentina and I think its likely that DebConf 27 will also not happen anywhere in trainvelling distance. But even if, I think the Mini DebConfs are more my style of happening (there is one planned in Hamburg next spring, and a couple of days ago I learned that there will be a Back to the Future musical show in Hamburg during that time). Nonetheless I had a nice time and I stumbled over some projects I might get more involved in. Thanks also to my travel buddies who put up with me 😋